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Forum Post: RE: Pondpack Diversion


Forum Post: RE: Pondpack Diversion

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I will add that once the model is computed, you can graph flow through any element. You can also view the flow arrows in the model plan view to see the flow direction, and add annotations on flow to view the flow change over time, as you advance through time using the Time Browser. (called "EPS Results Browser" in the current version of PondPack).

Forum Post: PondPack ICPM Differing Tailwaters

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I am using PondPack Version 10.1. I have a site with an underground detention system (60" CMP with a permanent 3.5' of water) for water quality and several dry basins above ground for storage volume. I have it routed it as an ICPM as all dry basins will drain through the underground system and outlet control structure. Runoff backs up into the dry basins as the release is restricted through the underground detention system. The invert of the dry basins are at the NWL of the underground detention. The problem is when the dry basin reach a headwater above the top of the underground pipe, the tailwater of the underground detention no longer limits the outflow from the dry basins. To put it another way, PondPack assumes there is no longer a tailwater affect and allows the dry basins to release freely even though the outlet pipe is still submerged. This produces a release rate from the dry basins around 3 or 4 cfs rather than the release rate through the underground system around 0.75 cfs. How can I overcome this?

Forum Post: RE: Error: A procedure imported by 'Haestad.RealDWG.Interlop.dll' could not be loaded

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Hello Mike, This may be related to compatibility , or more specifically using an older operating system. It could also be related to a DXF file. Please take a look at the following article for potential solutions. DXF Error: A procedure imported by Haestad.RealDWG.Interop.dll could not be loaded. If those solutions don't help then please provide the following: The model files and the file that you are trying to use in ModelBuilder. What operating system are you running? What product and version are you using?

Wiki Page: DXF Error: A procedure imported by Haestad.RealDWG.Interop.dll could not be loaded.

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Applies To Product(s): SewerGEMS, SewerCAD, CivilStorm, StormCAD, WaterGEMS, WaterCAD, HAMMER Version(s): 08.11.04.54, 08.11.05.61, 10.XX.XX.XX Area: Layout and Data Input Original Author: Scott Kampa, Bentley Technical Support Group Error or Warning Message When opening a model, the following error message is generated: "A procedure imported by 'Haestad.RealDWG.Interop', Version=8.4.0.50, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b4b808388021f6e' could not be loaded." "A procedure imported by 'Haestad.RealDWG.Interop.dll' could not be loaded." Explanation This issue can occur when running the latest release of SewerGEMS, SewerCAD, CivilStorm, and StormCAD, WaterGEMS, WaterCAD, Hammer on Windows XP. The Autodesk RealDWG component required to open a DXF files as a background or for use in tools like TRex and ModelBuilder is no longer supported on Windows XP. In addition to the RealDWG component no longer being supported on Window XP, Microsoft has also discontinued support for Windows XP (April 2014). For this reason the SELECTseries 4 release of the storm and sewer products and SELECTseries 5 release of Water products are no longer tested on Windows XP either. Please note that because of the prevalence of Windows XP, you are still able to install the SELECTseries 4 releases of storm and sewer products , and SELECTseries 5 release of Water products on this operating system. However, it is highly recommended that you use a Windows 7 machine if possible. How to Avoid Option 1 - Install on a more current operating system The SELECTseries 4 release of the storm and sewer products and SELECTseries 5 release of Water products is officially tested and supported on Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8, among other operating systems. The best resolution to the issue would be to install the product on a more current operating system. Option 2 - Don't use DXF files in the model The SELECTseries 4 release of the storm and sewer products and SELECTseries 5 release of Water products will install on a Windows XP machine. If you have a current model that has a DXF file for a background, try moving the .stsw and the .stsw.mdb files (or .stsw and .stsw.sqlite files for the latest release) of storm sewer products and .wtg, .wtg.mdb (or .wtg, .wtg.sqlite files for the latest release) of water products to a new folder location and try opening the model. It should open without an issue. You will not be able to apply DXF background files to the model. In addition, DXF files used in ModelBuilder and TRex will generate error messages as well. Other modeling features will likely work okay, however please remember that installation on a Windows XP machine is no longer officially tested. For that reason, some unexpected issues may arise. So, again, it is highly recommended that you install the program on a current operating system. See Also The specified module could not be found (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007007E)

Wiki Page: Troubleshooting problems with importing EPANET or EPASWMM files

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Applies To Product(s): WaterGEMS, HAMMER, WaterCAD, SewerGEMS, CivilStorm Version(s): 08.11.XX.XX, 10.XX.XX.XX Original Author: Mark Pachlhofer, Bentley Technical Support Group Problem When trying to import an EPANET.INP file into WaterGEMS or WaterCAD or an SWMM 5 .INP file in SewerGEMS or CivilStorm, the import fails and/or a message similar to the below appears: 1) "The specified EPANET file could not be loaded. Error message: The specified EPANET file contains values with no section. Format does not follow EPANET standards." 2) Error: Key in dictionary: #### Key being added: ##### (where # is some number) 3) There is a formatting error in the SWMM input file. 4) When importing an .INP file (EPANET) the model doesn't display correctly. For example, all the junctions in the model file are at a 0, 0 location. 5) The program crashes with a dialog titled "Assertion Failed" Background This may occur in some cases where the EPANET or EPASWMM file is in an older format or if it was created from a third-party software that did not properly export the file (or exported it with non-standard formatting). Solution - EPANET (WaterCAD / WaterGEMS / HAMMER) Typically, software developers verify the "correctness" of their exported format by importing a model into EPANET 2 and checking hydraulic results. The issue with this approach is that EPANET 2 itself supports older INP formats and upon opening an INP in EPANET 2, if it detects such older file formats it does silent updates to convert the data into EPANET 2 format. So it is possible that if a model is exported from a third-party software but in an older format, that the .INP file may not fully work in WaterCAD/WaterGEMS, which is designed to support the official EPANET 2 format. The following steps should help with most cases of this issue: 1) Open the file in EPANET and do a "File > Save As" to rename it just to be sure the filename isn't an issue. This saves the file in .NET format. 2) Then in EPANET do a "File > Export > Network", which saves the file back to a .INP format. This new INP file opened in WaterCAD/WaterGEMS through the File > Import > EPANET process. Opening the file in EPANET may also reveal clues about any formatting problems that may cause problems with the WaterCAD/WaterGEMS import. For example you may be presented with a dialog listed various error codes. In one example, the "Assertion Failed" error was found to be caused by spaces in the node names, which were listed as error code 203 when the INP file was opened in EPANET. Solution - EPA-SWMM (SWMM 5 - SewerGEMS / CivilStorm) This section applies to import and export of SWMM 5 INP files in SewerGEMS and CivilStorm. First, if you're using an older version of SewerGEMS or CivilStorm, there could be issues with data exchange with newer versions of EPA-SWMM. For example V8i SELECTseries 4 and below may not be able to work properly with EPA-SWMM 5.1 files. More robust support for SWMM 5.1 was added starting with V8i SELECTseries 5. Here is one possible symptom when importing a file created in a newer version of SWMM: "There is a formatting error in the SWMM input file. Check line 13 in section [OPTIONS]. Line: """ In case the SWMM 5 .INP file contains non-standard formatting or other problems, which could be caused by the application that exported the file. Try checking it and re-saving it in EPASWMM itself: 1) Open the .INP file in EPASWMM 5 or 5.1. note any errors, which may be due to problems with the program that exported the file. 2) Try computing the model in SWMM and note any additional calculation errors, which may be a result of any errors you saw when opening the file (which as mentioned above could be due to how it was saved) 3) If there are no problems with #1 or #2 above, go to File > Save As and save to a new name See Also Importing or exporting to WaterCAD, WaterGEMS, or HAMMER from other software What are the differences between WaterGEMS/CAD and EPANET?

Wiki Page: Modeling surcharging of an enclosed storage

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Applies To Product(s): CivilStorm, SewerGEMS, PondPack Version(s): 08.11.XX.XX Area: Modeling Original Author: Jesse Dringoli, Bentley Technical Support Group Problem I need to model an enclosed storage such as an underground storage chamber or storage pipe, but I need to be able to model a surcharged / pressurized condition, where the hydraulic grade is above the top. However, I get a message that the pond has overtopped or that overflow is occurring. Or, the proper headwater/tailwater is not being communicated to the adjacent pond via ICPM when the HGL is above the storage top. Solution When the hydraulic grade exceeds the top elevation that you specify in the pond's elevation-area / elevation-volume curve (or constructed elevation-volume curve based on entered pipe or storage chamber dimensions) the program assumes that overflow will occur. There are two options to consider if you need to model surcharging: Option 1 - "Chimney" One solution is to add a “chimney” to the top of your pond’s elevation-volume curve, to allow surcharging. You’d essentially add additional elevations to the curve, covering up to the maximum expected surcharge hydraulic grade, with a corresponding tiny increase in volume. This is similar to the Preissman slot method used in the calculations for surcharged pipes with SewerGEMS and CivilStorm (see the Help file for more on that). The pond will then be allowed to reach a higher hydraulic grade, without accounting for any additional storage or any overflow problem. Note: if you're using PondPack with the "Pipe" or "storage chamber" pond option, you can right click on the pond, choose "Pond volume results table", click the data table tab, copy out the elevation and volume columns, change the pond type to elevation-volume, then add the "chimney" elevations. The below example shows a pipe pond with an upstream crown elevation of 7.67 ft. Surcharging is expected, to a maximum elevation of 15 ft. So, an additional entry of 15 feet is added to the elevation-volume table, with only a tiny increase in volume. Option 2 - Conduit (SewerGEMS/CivilStorm) If using SewerGEMS or CivilStorm, model this as a control structure on a conduit. If you need to model a multi-stage outlet with more than one component (such as an orifice plus a weir), set up your composite outlet structure with multiple outlet components in the Composite Outlets managers, click the compute button in there to compute the rating table, then click the Data Table tab, highlight the elevation vs flow columns and use CTRL+C to copy into memory. Then, Add your stop control structure (or start control structure on the next downstream pipe – one method may be more stable than the other), set it up as a “depth-flow” type and paste in the data from the composite rating table. This way you can have the pipe modeled as a conduit, with the multi-stage outlet modeled as the single rating table on the in-line control structure.

Forum Post: RE: PondPack ICPM Differing Tailwaters

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Hello Jason, Try adding a "chimney" above the top of the underground storage system, per this article: Modeling surcharging of an enclosed storage Basically this involves adding an additional elevation far above the top of the actual pipe top, with a tiny increase in volume. This allows the HGL to rise above the actual pipe top, without any overflow or extra storage effects. You may need to use a smaller output increment and/or ICPM timestep.

Wiki Page: Bentley Application Support Policy for PondPack, FlowMaster and CulvertMaster

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Product(s): PondPack, FlowMaster, CulvertMaster Version(s): 08.11.01.56 (PondPack), 08.11.01.03 (FlowMaster), 03.03.00.04 (CulvertMaster) Problem Bentley has established the following Application Support policy, first announced at the Year in Infrastructure conference 2017 : "With the scheduled availability of its full CONNECT Edition application portfolio, Bentley Systems’ technical support for pre-V8i versions of applications will end on January 1, 2019 . The V8i generation of applications was introduced in 2008. Users can be assured that Bentley Systems’ technical support, and support in ProjectWise, for V8i versions of applications will continue until January 1, 2021 ." What does this mean for PondPack, CulvertMaster and FlowMaster? Solution Note: the following was written as of February 20th, 2018. CulvertMaster, FlowMaster and PondPack are still developed products; we do not currently have any plans to deprecate them in favor of another product. We will still continue to provide support and address any issues that arise with the latest available versions of these products, which are currently all V8i generation (including CulvertMaster 3.3). The end-of-support cutoff date of January 1 st , 2019 announced at the Year in Infrastructure conference applies to versions below V8i, such as PondPack 10.0. Pre-V8i products can still be used and licensed after this date, but Technical Support will not be provided. More information on this policy will be communicated to Bentley users. Regarding the end-of-support date of January 1 st , 2021 for Pre-CONNECT Edition – we plan to address this to ensure that you will still be able to receive Technical Support for the latest versions of these products. Rest assure, your users will not be “stuck”. Regarding PondPack: We strongly encourage migrating users of PondPack 10 to the latest version (V8i), to take advantage of enhancements and new features, and to enable continued access to Technical Support in 2019. A list of learning resources is available here including an FAQ specifically on moving from V10 to V8i and on-demand training included with a SELECT or ELS subscription. Technical Support can assist with any specific questions or concerns regarding PondPack V8i, and there are numerous articles available in the Wiki . CivilStorm can be an upgrade path for PondPack in some cases, but is not necessarily intended as a replacement. Although CivilStorm includes pond analysis features and the PondMaker design tool (in addition to other advanced functionality), there are some tools and reporting capabilities in PondPack that may be better suited for users focused on pond design. The general layout of the network is also simpler and can lend to faster pond design for simple systems. Similarly, although the different types of components available in FlowMaster and CulvertMaster can be modeled in CivilStorm, it can sometimes be very convenient and beneficial to be able to quickly set up a worksheet for a given component. As mentioned above, we will continue to provide Technical Support for the latest versions. See Also

Forum Post: RE: PondPack ICPM Differing Tailwaters

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Additionally, I see you mentioned that you are using version 10.1. We strongly encourage migrating from 10 to the latest version (V8i), to take advantage of enhancements and new features, and to enable continued access to Technical Support. Note that version 10 is also not officially supported on any operating system that Microsoft still supports. A list of learning resources is available here including an FAQ specifically on moving from V10 to V8i and on-demand training included with a SELECT or ELS subscription. Technical Support can assist with any specific questions or concerns regarding PondPack V8i, and there are numerous articles available in the Wiki .

Forum Post: RE: How to set up and assign private customer pump stations to investigate effects on network

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Hello Habeeb, Apologies for the delay in response. If you only need to assess the instantaneous impact on pressure that these private pumps have on the rest of the system, you could consider running a steady state simulation with the pumps modeled as junctions. You would enter a demand on the appropriate number of junctions, based on an assumed maximum number of running pumps. For example if there are 30 nodes total and ~10 of those 30 have pumps, and those represent 505 * 30% = ~150 pumps, how many of those 150 pumps will be running simultaneously? If you wanted to make a conservative assumption on that, you could add an estimate of the respective pump flow rate as a demand on those nodes. For example if you assumed a maximum of 50% of the pumps running at the same time, you would add the demand on 5 of those 30 nodes. The demand would be equal to the flow rate of the respective number of running pumps, and the program would calculate the pressure in the network accordingly. Using the same example of 50% simultaneous running, if each individual pump has a flow rate of 1 L/s and the 5 nodes represent 75 running pumps, then you would place a demand of 150 / 5 = 15 l/s As far as which nodes would be used to represent as pumps - since you are modeling 505 households (~150 with pumps) as 30 nodes, you may want to spread them out evenly. You could also set up a few scenarios to check the sensitivity to that distribution (try one scenario where they are evenly distributed, one scenario where most are on one side of the model, one scenario where most are on the other side of the model, etc) However, if you need to get more detailed to see for example the impact that these private pumps have on the water level of the source, you may need to run an EPS (extended period simulation). This would allow you to assess the impact from the change in water level and the pumps turning on or off. However, you may not be able to get accurate results with this method unless you explicitly model all of the individual pumps, so that you can model all of their respective controls and tanks. The pump controls would be necessary to accurately model the rising and falling of the respective tank and its corresponding impact. Therefore if a steady state is adequate, that might be the best approach. Others on the Community may be able to provide further input.

Forum Post: Error message "Object reference not set to an instance on an object" when exporting to EPANET in WaterCAD.

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I keep getting this error message when I try to export the inp file. Any ideas?

Forum Post: RE: sewer

Forum Post: Sewer Trunk Line Overflow

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Hello, I am modelling a sewer trunk line where a pumping station with maximum capacity of 200,000 m3/day is installed downstream of the pipe to pump the sewage to the sewage treatment plant. How can I model the pipeline and to know what will happen in case the incoming flow is more than the pump capacity?

Forum Post: RE: Error message "Object reference not set to an instance on an object" when exporting to EPANET in WaterCAD.

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Hello Keith, I don't see any existing documentation on this issue. I recommend upgrading to the latest version of WaterCAD. Downloading Haestad / Hydraulics and Hydrology Software If that doesn't help then please provide the model files. Sharing Hydraulic Model Files on the Haestad Forum

Forum Post: RE: The labels I set in inp file are disappear after import to watergems.

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In addition to Yashodhan's answer - If you are referring to the actual EPANET element IDs, please confirm if in WaterGEMS you are referring to the label seen in the plan view, or the label field for the element (seen in the properties, flextables, etc). If the ID is showing up correctly in the Label field in the element properties and flextables but you're just not seeing them in the model plan view, you may need to adjust your Element Symbology. For example you may need to increase the height multiplier in the label annotation properties, adjust the global text height multiplier setting or change the Drawing Style. See more in the following article from our Wiki: Elements and/or annotations are not displaying in the drawing pane If this does not help (and you are referring to the actual element IDs, not a text field as explained by Yashodhan), please elaborate and provide screenshots if possible.

Forum Post: RE: StormCAD Profile views won't print

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Tried that feed first before I emailed in my question :)

Forum Post: RE: StormCAD Profile views won't print

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~ Running version 08.11.05.58 ~ I've tried both the engineering and standard profile; can't get either to preview or print the profile. ~ Yes, just tried a sample project and had the same results; no preview or print of the profile. ~ Yes, tried multiple printers including 2 different PDF drivers; no preview or print of the profile. ~ The scaling factor is it; thank you so much! The computer has a built in recommended scale factor of 200%, when I changed it to 100% it previewed and printed with no problem! THANK YOU!!

Forum Post: RE: Sewer Trunk Line Overflow

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From looking at another one of your forum posts it appears you are using SewerCAD. As explained in this article : "GVF-Convex (SewerCAD) solver is not intended to handle overflow situations such as a case where you want to analyze a problematic existing system. When an overflow condition arises with the GVF Convex solver, the HGL is reset to the rim for an overflow condition. However, the dynamic solvers in SewerGEMS (Implicit and Explicit SWMM solvers) do handle overflow, as they are intended for situations like this (problematic existing systems and/or complex situations). SewerGEMS Implicit and Explicit solvers automatically calculate the overflow using the weir equation." If you want to limit the pump's flow to 200,000m3/day, then you could use a "Standard 3 Point" pump curve and set the Max. Operating flow to that value. The following articles discuss how overflow can be modeled in SewerGEMS. How do the dynamic solvers calculate overflow from a catchbasin or manhole? Interpreting results when using manhole or catchbasin Surface Storage Modeling wetwell overflow

Forum Post: RE: StormCAD Profile views won't print

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Note I am using a Surface Studio with a 28-inch screen for anyone else who may run into this issue.
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